Camelot
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Post by Camelot on Oct 19, 2011 12:54:39 GMT
Tide - Cardiff
Sunday 1st January 2012
0543 3.4m
1152 9.9m
1809 3.6m
Monday 2nd January 2012
0017 9.4m
0631 3.9m
1243 9.3m
1903 4.1m
As you can see from the tide times above, it may not be ideal for some boats to round Flat Holm, as has become the tradition, on either day (we usually do it over a low tide).
With adequate wind Camelot could make it against these smallish tides without issue, however, other boats may not.
What do you all think? Go for Flat Holm against the tide? Go for an evening sail over LW round Flat Holm? Or suggest an alternative route for our day sail?
Once we've had the result of the vote for the date of the sail, I'll put up another poll to choose the best of the suggestions received here - so let's have them!
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Post by allan on Oct 19, 2011 13:24:18 GMT
Huw, it all sounds like fun! Chausey will be there almost whatever is planned. The only thing that may be a problem would be a late, low tide sail on Monday.
Can I suggest a high tide sail up channel and back, avoiding the sandbanks of course!
Allan
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Fred
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Post by Fred on Oct 19, 2011 18:41:05 GMT
Is boxing day +1 on
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Post by sheila on Oct 20, 2011 12:57:10 GMT
Fred, as of the moment we think it will be Boxing Day plus ! until you hear otherwise. Probably see you before then, I hope.
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Post by sheila on Oct 20, 2011 13:00:07 GMT
Huw, it all sounds like fun! Chausey will be there almost whatever is planned. The only thing that may be a problem would be a late, low tide sail on Monday. Can I suggest a high tide sail up channel and back, avoiding the sandbanks of course! Allan I agree with Allan about a high water sail up channel and back. Would a trip to Newport YC be feasible if they are going to be open on either day? |
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Post by allan on Oct 20, 2011 13:35:17 GMT
For the Boxing day +! race could we go out into the channel? In light of the lost mast a couple of races ago and the boats damaged in last weeks bay race I think it is too dangerous in the bay.
Allan
PS, same applies to the regatta.
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Post by neville on Oct 21, 2011 1:04:55 GMT
We had a nice sail around the Holms, so missed all the excitement. Do tell what happened.
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Post by vikingsmb on Oct 21, 2011 10:50:00 GMT
I'm up for doing the new years sail with anyone
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Post by Viv on Oct 31, 2011 18:36:33 GMT
I think a Flatholms is a no no with the tide about three hours sail
Newport five hours with a pint at the bar if open.
How about a "cans" sail? Lock out at 09 30 or10 00am start at Penarth orange buoy, Outer Wrack, North Cardiff, Mid Cardiff, Outer Wrack,Home: time about 3 hours and back to the Club for a pint and bit of food.
VIV.
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Camelot
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Post by Camelot on Nov 1, 2011 12:06:25 GMT
Well it looks like Monday 2nd January has won. So are there any more suggestions for where to sail? I'll give it a few days to see if there are any more ideas and then I'll put a poll up to choose (after checking whether Newport will be open).
Monday 2nd January 2012
0017 9.4m
0631 3.9m
1243 9.3m
1903 4.1m
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Post by allan on Nov 1, 2011 20:45:47 GMT
How about we go out of the Barrage at a sensible time, put up sails and turn left. At high tide we all turn around and head back to the bar? Anyone who wants to be competitive can head for the bar with a note of how many miles they managed.
As usual I will be zeroing my GPS ready for the start of the year.
Allan
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Post by Fred on Nov 2, 2011 21:29:50 GMT
neap tides on Monday max 2.2kt tide Flat Holm still possable depending on wind lock out 2-3hrs before high water tides will average 1kt against, may have time to have a drink at Flatholm
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Post by Andy-High Spirits on Nov 3, 2011 12:52:50 GMT
how about weston? if the club bar is closed there's always the pub.
Andy
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Post by vikingsmb on Nov 4, 2011 15:57:01 GMT
Viv, that's a good idea - cans sail.
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Post by allan on Dec 29, 2011 16:23:44 GMT
Has anyone settled on a plan for Monday?
Allan
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Post by sheila on Dec 29, 2011 18:51:18 GMT
No, don't know of a plan as yet. Further to your earlier post Allan, and as also mentioned in the club, zero GPS for the start of the year, and then, in addition to the Blue Book Challenge we could look at most mileage for the year as another competition/prize!
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Post by sheila on Dec 29, 2011 19:04:01 GMT
I have just looked at NUSC web site. They are having dinghy Frostbite #5 on Monday 2 Jan starting 09.15 from their club. The club will be open until about 14.30.
If we go we need to phone the commodore, Andrew Creighton and let him know.
What do we think? Also looks a bit frisky weatherwise!
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Camelot
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Post by Camelot on Dec 29, 2011 22:19:13 GMT
I think NUSC would be the ideal destination with the tides we have on the day, however, I've been holding back suggesting it as the weather may well make this uncomfortable, particularly on the return.
I now think Allan's suggestion about just heading east until around the time of HW and then retuning may be better. Ideas/constructive comments?
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Post by allan on Dec 30, 2011 0:42:38 GMT
At present, Windguru www.windguru.cz/int/index.php?sc=6459 is giving some pretty good speeds from the west. It my be a good day to head south and then turn round. Even with the tide it may be a bit of a slog back down the channel into the wind. Can I suggest we all get together and decide on Monday morning, before we leave? Allan |
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Post by vikingsmb on Dec 30, 2011 17:29:11 GMT
Have fun all if you are out sailing  |
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Camelot
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Post by Camelot on Dec 30, 2011 21:16:47 GMT
On second thoughts - I agree lets decide on the day, meet at 09:00 on the benchs below the clubhouse flag pole. We can decide where we're going, who would like to take their boats and who would like to crew for someone there, sort ourselves out, and lock out at 10:00.
Maybe we can make use of the extra wind and round Flat Holm against the tide after all!
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Post by sheila on Dec 31, 2011 6:55:58 GMT
Sounds like a good plan!
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Post by shindig on Jan 1, 2012 11:03:17 GMT
I would love to come and crew...meet 09.00 yes?
Tim (ex-Shindig!)
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Post by shindig on Jan 1, 2012 11:07:28 GMT
Mind you....I have to find someone to cover childcare...so might not be able...hadn't realised my ex was working! Bah humbug...
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Camelot
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Post by Camelot on Jan 1, 2012 13:10:53 GMT
Yes meet at 09:00. Wind forecast does seem to be easing for the morning, with the stronger winds now forecast for later tomorrow and the following day:- www.xcweather.co.uk/forecast/cardiff |
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Post by vikingsmb on Jan 1, 2012 13:56:06 GMT
Might come down and crew for someone. Count me in |
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Post by allan on Jan 1, 2012 18:09:58 GMT
As it's a bank holiday, does anybody know if the bar will be open when we get back?
Allan
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Post by vikingsmb on Jan 1, 2012 19:47:20 GMT
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Post by vikingsmb on Jan 2, 2012 13:59:07 GMT
Sorry couldn't make it today, had a really bad stomach during the night. so didn't feel up to it. Sorry Guys  |
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Post by shindig on Jan 2, 2012 19:42:38 GMT
Great sail today...thanks Allan and Lyndon and everyone else for the company....hopefully i will post some video clips of Bright Flyer rounding Steep Holm barely 10m off the cliff...if i can work out how to do it
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