Camelot
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Post by Camelot on Jul 1, 2011 12:25:54 GMT
This year we intend to resurrect the 50 miler, with an honesty race from Cardiff to Ilfracombe.
The Race will be from the Penarth YC ODM mark to the Copperas buoy just before Ilfracombe - The Copperas mark must be left to Starboard. Sully Island must also be left to Starboard.
All participants must send their start and finish times to me by text message. I don't want to publish my phone number on here so make sure you see me for it before the race.
There is no set start and finish time, so you can pick a time to set off giving the best tidal advantage to your boat. You must however start and finish on 20th August 2011.
Whilst I'm aware that this race is a little shy of 50 miles, I feel it meets the intent of the race.
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Post by Martyn & Sarah on Aug 5, 2011 16:36:33 GMT
bright flyer will be up for it
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Post by allan on Aug 8, 2011 13:18:05 GMT
Chausey should be there too. I'm hoping to persuade Volition and Wave Function too.
Allan
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Post by sheila on Aug 12, 2011 8:31:05 GMT
Volition will be there we hope!
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draycott
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Post by draycott on Aug 12, 2011 18:38:06 GMT
Celtic breeze will hope to be there
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Post by Viv on Aug 13, 2011 6:47:50 GMT
1st sail we hope to be going for it on Volition.  |
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Camelot
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Post by Camelot on Aug 13, 2011 16:09:39 GMT
Have sent a pm to everyone who has posted here with my mobile number to send your start finish times to. Most of you probably have it already, but at least you've all got the same info.
Anyone else thinking of taking part?
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Post by Xanadu on Aug 14, 2011 8:22:41 GMT
Unfortunately, I'm going to have to give this one a miss. My hand will definitely not be up to the job and even if I was a passenger I'm sure I'd manage to do some more damage.
Might just be OK for the Bristol trip in September.
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Post by Camelot on Aug 14, 2011 10:26:08 GMT
Unfortunately, I'm going to have to give this one a miss. My hand will definitely not be up to the job and even if I was a passenger I'm sure I'd manage to do some more damage. I'd put money on Mike having checked the weather forecast for Xanadu's favourite light Easterlies before writing this! ;D How's the hand mending now? |
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Post by Camelot on Aug 14, 2011 10:49:02 GMT
In answer to a couple of questions I've been asked:-
The start line extends from the Penarth Yacht club flag mast to their ODM buoy. This line then extends out (almost perfectly) to the Mid Cardiff SHM. I have no problem with you passing either side of the ODM mark as the water can be shallow there around LW.
Also the use of an autopilot is permitted - I'd much rather see a short/single handed boat able to join in safely than have to give it a miss.
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Post by allan on Aug 14, 2011 13:19:24 GMT
Any thoughts on where to spend Saturday night? I suggest it's a choice between Ilfracombe and Watermouth.
Allan
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Post by sheila on Aug 15, 2011 8:48:18 GMT
Is it me? Am I missing something? Or am I just getting a bit senile? Someone please explain. Huw says that the Copperas mark must be left to starboard.
The Copperas mark is a SHM with buoyage going west to east. From the way I see it, surely we will be passing the buoy on our port hand side if we are heading towards Ilfracombe. I can't see any way of passing the mark to starboard other than passing it on the inside or turning round and heading back east. I am sure it is perfectly safe for a small yacht to pass it on the inside, but we wouldn't normally do that.
Please someone tell me I am being totally stupid.
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Post by allan on Aug 15, 2011 11:22:11 GMT
Sheila,
I've seen loads of people fishing inside the Copperas buoy. I'm sure there will be enough water, even at low tide.
As Huw talked about low water at the ODM buoy above, maybe he is planning to get to the Copperas buoy at high water?
Allan
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Post by Fred on Aug 15, 2011 13:26:56 GMT
I am not a racer myself But has PYC ODM mark will be used near high water it could be past to port of boat. Copperas buoy to starboard of boat finish timing taken when the buoy bears 360". Course distance 36kn
I hope to take part
Could anchor in Combe Martin Bay early start using tide sail back Cardiff
Fred
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Post by allan on Aug 15, 2011 16:07:07 GMT
I plan to go to Watermouth or Ilfracombe afterwards. Hopefully, in time to get a drink or two at one of the yacht clubs, it may require an early start.
Allan
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Post by sheila on Aug 15, 2011 18:02:15 GMT
I think we are fancying Ilfracombe
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Post by Camelot on Aug 15, 2011 18:04:35 GMT
Sheila, I've seen loads of people fishing inside the Copperas buoy. I'm sure there will be enough water, even at low tide. As Huw talked about low water at the ODM buoy above, maybe he is planning to get to the Copperas buoy at high water? Allan Yes Sheila, you do need to go the 'wrong' side of the copperas buoy - otherwise you could technically claim to have past the mark when sailing past the Mumbles, 20 miles further North, which in the right wind could be quicker to reach. According to my chart the Copperas Rock (which the SHM guides vessels around) is covered by 1.4m at CD - with LW Ilfracombe being 2.3m - there should be no less than 3.7m of water even if you go directly over the rock, which should be perfectly safe unless there is a fair swell. And as there's 0.1Nm between the rock and the buoy - you shouldn't need to get that close to the rock when going inside of the buoy. As for the LW comment, it was aimed at someone in particular, who I'm sure knows exactly what I'm talking about! |
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Post by allan on Aug 15, 2011 18:15:06 GMT
I think we are fancying Ilfracombe Decision made then. We will be waiting in IYC when you arrive. Allan |
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Post by Fred on Aug 15, 2011 21:06:50 GMT
Allan
May start at 00.05 am to wait for you at IYC
Fred
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Post by allan on Aug 15, 2011 23:34:59 GMT
Are you sure that will be early enough?
Allan
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Post by nigel on Aug 16, 2011 8:23:49 GMT
UnfortunatelyWave Function will not be able to attend, due to a family commitment on Sunday. Wishing all sailors fair winds and a pleasant passage.
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Post by sheila on Aug 16, 2011 10:32:04 GMT
I think we are fancying Ilfracombe Decision made then. We will be waiting in IYC when you arrive. Allan Not rising to that one Allan |
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Post by sheila on Aug 16, 2011 10:33:21 GMT
Huw, Camelot, thanks for clarifying that, I get your reasoning. Cheers Sheila
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Post by Fred on Aug 18, 2011 16:33:09 GMT
Huw
Can not be at club tonight can you confirm how near you need to be PYC ODM to start. Starting near Cardiff mid SHM will gave a small advantage.Hoping to make it on Sat
Fred
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Post by Camelot on Aug 19, 2011 9:31:13 GMT
Huw Can not be at club tonight can you confirm how near you need to be PYC ODM to start. Starting near Cardiff mid SHM will gave a small advantage.Hoping to make it on Sat Fred Fred, it's an honesty race, so I'm not being too fussy, the start mark is the ODM so you should be reasonably close to it. Huw. |
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Post by Matt on Aug 19, 2011 11:32:35 GMT
Myself and Julian on Sunbeam are considering coming along on the trip (although we are also thinking about doing Swansea instead).
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Post by Fred on Aug 20, 2011 8:28:42 GMT
unable to make trip was already to go last min commitmants
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Post by Matt on Aug 20, 2011 10:19:22 GMT
Saw the weather and chickened out. No cockpit hood = wet trip.
Have fun everyone!
Matt
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Post by allan on Aug 20, 2011 20:50:32 GMT
Lots of wind at the start, none at the end! Volition and Chausey are in Watermouth, Bright Flyer went to Lynmouth.
Allan
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Post by Fred on Aug 20, 2011 21:23:23 GMT
Allan
Who at Ilfracombe can see them on Web cam
Fred
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