Jacksons Bay BBQ - 6th August

[Camelot]

The popular Jackson's Bay BBQ will be held this year on 6th August. This year we're going for a 'tea time' BBQ, on Barry Island's Jackson's Bay.
Bring along your BBQ food and BBQ (most use a disposible one). There'll be plenty of people with dinghies to help with ferrying people ashore. VHF CH.77.

[duncanhall]

I hope to come with Robert and Jackie.

Duncan

[Matt]

Count me in.

Matt

[sheila]

Let's hope the weather is good for this. In the evening there is a disco in the club house, should make for a good day all round.

[Romantica]

All being well, Coracle & gang will be there

[Deleted]

Katy is still out of action!! The ongoing saga of the engine.... or a better description would be lack of power, as the cause has spread beyond just the engine. I've given up the DIY approach and she is currently in the boatyard.

I have always thought that Katy lacked power, as all other boats, big and small, have always left her behind when under steam. The odd thing is that, as I have said many times before, the 1GM10 has been incredibly reliable. At the risk of repetition I've never heard the churning of the starter motor. She has always started first time over compression, winter or summer. Just prod the button and she's away..... which makes what comes next even more surprising!

When I was carrying out my attempts at DIY I took the injector out, had it reconditioned and went to put it back, armed with a new heat sealing washer and the copper crush washer. The first job was to get the old ones out, an operation that everyone warned me was tricky. After trying for at least an hour to hook them out of the injector hole by braille at arms length I had one of those 'light bulb appearing over your head' moments. I found a large allen key that would fit tightly into the hole in the middle of the new washers; the theory being that if i wedged it into the old ones I might be able to pull them out...... but......

The allen key was still able to be easily moved from side to side when the allen key was resting on the top of the piston.... conclusion??? There couldn't have been any in there in the first place. No wonder I couldn't get them out. So I put the new ones in, replaced the linjector and started the engine. It was now worse than before.

The marine engineers had a 'magic camera' they pushed down the injector hole. As well as those washers there is supposed to be a pre-combustion chamber at the bottom of the injector hole in a 1GM10 engine. 'There's nothing in there', the engineer reported with some surprise. How is the thing running at all? Let alone starting so well. So off came the cylinder head to see if it had disintegrated and the bits fallen into the cylinder. (Eyes screwed tight at the thought..... new engine required...?)

Nothing. It appears that the pre-combustion chamber, all the packing washers, heat sealing washer and crush washer must have been 'forgotten' to be replaced the last time the engine was taken apart. Must have been the same engineer that flooded Ardua with diesel! :-)

But that's not the end of the story. I remember mentioning to Huw that there is also a rather disconcerting shuddering of the whole boat at certain revs and load conditions. Katy has been out of the water and it turns out that some previous owner has attempted to cut down a 14" propeller to a 12" one, and the blades are not even the same length. That would explain the shuddering! Coupled with the engine problem this would also explain the lack of performance. Didn't whoever did it realise that a propeller has a progressive twist and flare, specifically designed to optimise thrust against turning resistance. Cutting the blades down to 12" doesn't give you a 12" propeller - even if they actually are the same length - it just results in a roughly propeller shaped lump of inefficient metal on the end of the shaft.

So... I'm waiting for the parts for the engine and a new propeller to arrive and be fitted. Once done I'll be waterskiing behind Katy! I just hope she'll be back in the water before the summer runs out. (If we get one at all).

Julian.

[duncanhall]

It looks like Ardua is out as having a new engine fitted. It will take until end of August befoe she is back in action.

[sheila]

Afraid we're out too, being boatless, but aAlana might yet be joining in with her new owners!

[Xanadu]

Looks like I'm crewless this weekend so am thinking of using this event to try my first solo trip through the locks.

However, if any of you temporarily boatless would like to join me you would be very welcome. If anyone is interested please let me know ASAP so we can plan BBQ supplies etc.

Mike

[Matt]

We're thinking of locking out about 1pm, how about everyone else?

Matt

[Sui]

Would I believe it? Would I???
Yup, I would - today, the start of my three week break, plans afoot for sailing for the entire three weeks, and my left knee stops working!
Not only can't I replace the waterlock, and fit a new boom - I can't even get *on* Sui. Looks like I'll be missing this BBQ, which I had planned as the start of my voyage West
I wonder will Magners loosen it up?

[Matt]

Sorry to hear that Paschal, not too much Magners I hope!

Matt

[Camelot]

I'm planning to lock out at 13:30. I'll have my dinghy if anyone wants a lift ashore.

Barry's tides for Saturday (BST) are:-

12:17 10.5m
18:28 2.4m
(00:44) 10.2m

[spidercrab]

Any idea approximately when the mud will reveal itself as the tide in Jacksons Bay recedes?

[Matt]

Spidercrab - I guess its half way between HW and LW not that this helps much sorry. I remember that its across the middle of the bay. Its not that bad anyway as long as you take your shoes off. Just follow the rest of us. Its my first time beaching my boat on sand so learning curve for me.

Matt

[Camelot]

Slight change of plan for me - I can't make the 13:30 lock as I have to work until 14:35 - but I intend to go for the 15:30 lock instead and catch up with you on the beach.

I guess you'll still be there as there's not much point making for home until 18:00 ish, unless you want to fight the tide all the way.

For those who aren't aware - there's a disco at the club the same evening when we return.

[Fred]

can not make BBQ another grandson birthday did try to arrange party at Jackson Bay

Fred

[Matt]

Yeah we'll still be there Huw due to the tides.

See you later.

Matt

[Xanadu]

Well, a not so good end to a fantastic afternoon. Locked out 14:30 with Sunbeam and Cassandra for my first single handed trip in the channel. Quite a lot of wind so decided not to bother with the the main and put out about 3/4 of the Genoa. Averaged 5.5k through the water and hit 6.5 a few times just off a beat. Why can't I do this racing?

Arrived at Jackson's Bay, joined by Camalot and went ashore with Peter and Elaine. Had fun getting BBQs going (including Huw's H & S model with the fire-retardant lighter paper, which needed help from some outboard fuel, and Peter's "no extra lighter required".)

After good food, company and a couple of glasses of wine, at about 19:00, we all started making a move, which is where the fun and a long painful night started. I now award myself the CYC twit of the year prize for non-sailing stupidity as I ran my hand over the sand that seconds before had been underneath my disposable BBQ. It is difficult to describe just how hot it was, but I am told the look on my face as I leaped up and ran for the nearest cold water, a stream further down the beach, said it all!

A few minutes later I rejoined the group and told them that I thought it was quite serious, and credit where it's due, they manged to stop laughing and got me up to the nearest gents where I got my hand straight back under a cold tap - where apart from the ambulance trip to Cardiff, which was agony, was where it stayed until nearly midnight. I even had a chap from the Council take pity on me and said he would come back to lock up the toilet block later.

Of course, everyone was fantastic, Huw, Julian, Caroline & Ange arranging to take my boat back, calling the ambulance and making sure Sandra, my wife, knew where to find me.

She was waiting at the A & E Dept at the Heath when I arrived where, as I said earlier, we waited about 3 hours (my own fault for doing some thing so stupid on a Saturday night) with my hand under a cold tap, the only way I could make the pain bearable. Staff there were fantastic, finding me the tap in a spare treatment room and eventually giving me some pain killers, which took ages to work.

So, I'm sitting here now with my right hand in the medical equivalent of a plastic bag (as far as I can see, completely indistinguishable from the real thing), typing with my left, at which I am even worse than with my right, about to set off for an 08:00 appointment with the burns unit at Morriston Hospital where I find out what the damage is.

Once again, many thanks to you all for your help. I will try to get down to the club later on today to collect the bits I left on the boat and hopefully Sandra can drive my car back (I won't be driving for a while, or sailing for that matter.)

Will keep you posted.

Mike

[rose]

Hi Mike sorry to hear of your burns,well done on going solo btw, glad you enjoyed the BBQ tho,
we locked out at 1400 on Bilbo 2 we intended to sail to Jacksons bay but not join in the fun due to me having to be at work by 1800, had a great sail on jib alone hitting 6 knots SOG at times,I had a novice crew onboard and for one of them it happened to be his first trip on a sailboat, his name is jason and he is looking to get more crewing in so if you or anyone else is looking for crew i could pm you his number,

chris, Bilbo 2

[Xanadu]

Just back from Morrison Burns Unit and the news is fairly good. Looks like a combination of lots of luck and good first aid (thanks to the training I did at the club) has saved me from long term damage and possible need for plastic surgery.

I have to do lots of exercises and go back to the Burns Unit on Tuesday to change dressings and see how it's getting on.

[spidercrab]

Hope your hand returns to normal as soon as possible.

Sounds like a very eventful BBQ.

Those disposable BBQ's can be potentially dangerous things.

[allan]

I'm glad most of the BBQ went well.
Mike, sorry to hear about your injury. Sounds like you will have to do the 50 mile race single handed!
Allan

[traveller]

Hello Mike,

We just wanted to wish you a speedy recovery.

Carol and Graham (Blyth Spirit)

[Matt]

Sunbeam beached (for the first time) at Jacksons Bay.



Had a lumpy sail downlbut ovely BBQ for a few hours with traditional burnt sausages then a great sail back downwind in the sunshine. We missed all the action with Mike and him trying to cook his fingers instead of sausages! Hope your hand is getting better Mike. I guess that's going to be painful for quite a while.

Thank you Huw for organising the trip and providing the entertainment with your petrol fired spontanious BBQ!

Matt

[Xanadu]

Thank you all for your good wishes.

I have just got back from the Burns Unit for re-dressing and assessment. All looking quite good and some new skin already growing. However, I'm off work for at least the rest of the week and they say it could take months before it's fully recovered and not really sensitive.

Missing sailing already.

Mike

[rose]

Looking good Matt, hope you scraped your bottom while you got the chance.
Chris

[Deleted]

thanks to all involved for a the good company. Elaine and me had a thoroughly enjoyable afternoon. Thanks as always to Karen for her generosity in lending us Cassandra. We decided we were too tired on our return to tidy up the boat before we went home and so spent the night on the pontoon. We woke to heavy rain - glad we managed the fine afternoon for the bbq!

Sorry about the hand Mike - I don't think anybody realised how bad it was - I would have made far more noise! - I almost did the same thing myself as well - it was certainly 'a bit warm!'. A warning to all - it took us a long time to cool the sand down with many buckets of water. Hope it continues to heal well - keep us informed.

Peter and Elaine

[Camelot]

Aug 7, 2011 18:58:04 GMT spidercrab said:

Hope your hand returns to normal as soon as possible.

Sounds like a very eventful BBQ.

Those disposable BBQ's can be potentially dangerous things.

Thanks to all who attended for a thoroughly enjoyable evening (well the first half of it at least!).

I got to say though that the disposable bbq's themselves were really not that dangerous - mine totally refused to light - the supposed lighter paper being flame prove. I had to work hard to make it dangerous by trekking back to the boat to obtain a generous kiddies bucket full of petrol to get it going - which worked well! Nobody burnt themselves on the bbq - as we all knew these were hot. What wasn't expected was the length of time that the sand retained the heat for. A lesson for future trip - we'll have to thoroughly soak to hot sand with water to save leaving a very hot trap for some child playing in the sand.

Hope the hand mends quickly Mike, and you can get back to sailing! Peter is right when he says we didn't realise how serious it was - no screaming, just an interesting facial expression - I soon realised though when you came directly to me asking for help as if I were the most sensible person in the group - clearly in enough pain to make you delusional!

I couldn't believe how much Angie seemed to enjoy helming Xanadu and chattering on the VHF - two things she avoids when onboard Camelot - She'll be doing more in future!

[vikingsmb]

Glad you all enjoyed yourselves,
by the way, Hi all