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Post by allan on Jun 29, 2010 15:14:29 GMT
After some debate in the bar on Thursday, four boats went through the lock at 05-00hrs on Friday. Although there was a wonderful sunrise and clear sky, there was a lack of wind. We did all get a short sail in the middle of the day. Later, what little wind there had been dropped to nothing. We then headed down to Instow and settled down on the wall at Appledore, some more successfully than others. Two members of NDYC came over to see how we all were and then offered lifts over to their club for drinks. NDYC is one of the few clubs I have visited that rivals the friendliness of CYC.
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Post by allan on Jun 29, 2010 15:35:32 GMT
The following morning Vince decided to do some cleaning, few people can carry off the "boots and shorts" look as well as he can. We then decided on a walk around Appledore. Which Lilly found a little boring. In the evening the crews of Alana and Chausey joined friends at the Boathouse in Instow for dinner. Afterwhich we watchted a great sunset. Followed by a lovely moonrise back at the boats. All of this really capped off a great day.
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Post by allan on Jun 29, 2010 16:21:59 GMT
Sunday dawned foggy but warm, so we headed out following Alana out across the bar accompanied by some local boats. At Baggy point the fog lifted and we motorsailed to off Watermouth. At which point we put sails up and headed up channel in beautiful sunlight. At this point I put my new cruising chute up and we went our separate ways. The wind increased and gave me a great sail to end a great weekend. As I was unable to leave the wheel when the wind got up this was the only picture I could take. I would like to thank the crews of Alana, Manyana and Katy for a fun an interesting weekend in an underrated and great destination. The guys from NDYC are true gentlemen and I hope more members of the club have the oppertunity to find out for themselves. Allan
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Post by ishtar on Jun 29, 2010 18:44:30 GMT
Great account Allan. I notice you said that you did not manage to beat Sheila and Vince to the bar? Don't worry, mate. Few do. ;D
Is Julian available to give tuition on drying out against a wall?
Seriously, looks like great fun. We were on maintenance all weekend. Louise has been up the mast, and we've all but done the engine adn fitted the new autopilot.
I was desperate to have a go at drying out against a wall. I'm very nervous now. Must catch up and find out what happened.
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Post by duncanhall on Jun 29, 2010 19:59:38 GMT
Drying out against the wall was a challange. It would have been beller for the non bilge keel craft to have moored in the channel. That said 3 days with 12 hrs sleep was great fun and well worth repeating. One key note is to take plenty of fuel as the opertunitys to refuell were limited.
That said the wind on the way back was perfect and we managed to surf on the waves on the way back once we were in mid Bristol channel.
Duncan MaƱana
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Post by sheila on Jun 30, 2010 15:21:59 GMT
Friday morning was beautiful - not much good for sailing but fab if you are a sun worshipper like me! I noted the temperature at 0600 as being 15 degrees already! I hope you all noticed the motor sailing cone on Allan's picture, but just for good measure here is Allan motor sailing at 07.23, and please note the cone! It was quite a boring trip, so Allan passed some time by doing some fishing, whilst we occupied ourselves by jellyfish spotting just around Watermouth/Ilfracombe (Picture taken at 12.59) By 13.17 our little flotilla had come together again, as we approached the headland at Morte Point We were all aware of the overfalls marked by the Mort Stone green buoy, but even so I think we were all surprised by them Julian was the only sensible skipper who went by the rules and kept the buoy to port, whilst the rest of us "cut the corner" and went to starboard of the buoy - not very comfortable! By 16.15 we were making our approach to the estuary of the rivers Taw & Torridge, passing over Bideford Bar. Considering the water was so flat and calm, the waves over the bar were quite impressive, the photo doesn't do it justice!
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Post by sheila on Jun 30, 2010 15:42:44 GMT
By 5.00 pm we had all moored alongside the wall at Appledore, Edwina and Lily had arrived, and as Allan said we were then paid a visit by Chris & John from NDYC who suggested we re-arrange ourselves, so Manana then went alongside Katy and Alana went alongside Chausey. Finally, everyone was settled, then there was debate as to whether we would go ashore for drinks and a meal. At that point I couldn't make a decision to save my life, and the thought of climbing up the long vertical ladder to the quayside did not help. But then, at the invitation to go over to the yacht club, I skinned up the ladder like a moutain goat (more like an old crotchety goat really!) We had a very warm welcome at the yacht club, but we only stayed for a couple of drinks because we had decided that we should get back to the boats by about 9.00 pm to make sure all was well with the tide falling (high tide was 18.00), so Vince and I went back as we had arrived, in Edwina's car, and Julian and Duncan and his crew were driven back by Chris & John - very kind of them. We had some lovely fish and chips for supper then back on board for an early night after what had been a very long day. However, a little mis-hap befell Katy & Manana but the problem was very soon sorted out And so it was off to bed for a good sleep for us lucky bilge keelers, while the others had a very worrying night I believe!
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Post by sheila on Jun 30, 2010 15:49:07 GMT
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Post by sheila on Jun 30, 2010 16:13:14 GMT
Later in the afternoon the girls were out rowing against the incoming tide. Who says that an umbrella is useless on a boat? A most enjoyable evening was spent at Instow at the Boathouse pub, where we met up with friends from Barnstaple and had a lovely meal, and then a reasonably early night again ready for our 0700 departure on Sunday (not to mention the fact that quite a satisfactory amount of alcohol had been consumed during the day and evening!) Sunday I awoke at 5.45 to see this . It was quite amusing because I then was listening to Good Morning Sunday on the radio, and what should they play but the hymn "For those in peril on the sea"! Allan emerged on deck just a while later to say that the first thing that he heard on awaking and putting on the radio was that! Allan has already described our departure, but I thought I'd put a picture of Baggy Leap Buoy in - I like buoys, and especially some of their names! How do they get them? And here is a picture of the buoy at Morte Rock on Sunday, with a boat fishing there - quite a different story from our passage through on Friday. Here is Chausey with the cruising chute up, just off Watermouth I think, and a lovely little boat in the background. We had a nice little sail back, encountering some very gusty winds on the approach to Cardiff, gusting 25knots, but we made the 18.45 lock in, earlier than we had expected, and yes, we were first to the bar, we like to get our priorities right - dump the boat on the mooring and run like hell before the bar closes! Hope you've enjoyed our little pictorial accounts. This was quite an exciting trip for us, being the furthest west and south that Alana has been so far (under our ownership anyway) and we look forward to more to come. Lets hope the weather keeps good for the rest of the season.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2010 17:55:54 GMT
Wow! What a weekend! The one piece of tuition I can give about drying out against a wall is DON'T DO IT!!!!!! Seriously though, it was a huge learning curve, and having gone through the mill on the first attempt I now feel confident to do it again whenever the need arises. It was only that first low tide on the Friday night that was a disaster, although the following morning's low would almost certainly have followed suit had Vince not woken me up. After being up at 4am on the Friday morning for a 5am start, sailing single handed for 12 hours without an autohelm, and getting no sleep at all on Friday night due to supervising the drying out and 'wetting up again' I was totally exhausted and had simply flaked out. So what went wrong? It seemed so perfect to begin with. Allan was so right about the gentlemen at the NDYC and with their help and advice Katy was left perfectly set up as we went over to enjoy their outstanding hospitality in their clubhouse on the other side of the river. Katy's mooring lines were slack enough so she could drop with the tide. We had an elaborate system which basically meant that the halyard ran to the quay with two buckets of water on the end which would rise and fall with the tide. The idea being that they would provide a constant pull from the top of the mast towards the quay in order to persuade Katy to lean that way rather than out into oblivion. And, courtesy of Duncan, we had a piece of marine ply hanging from the stanchions with a whole row of fenders neatly packed behind so that Katy could lean against the ladder in a ladylike manner. Perfect. At that time there was a couple of hours before Katy would start to ground, so plenty of time for a drink over the river. Katy is really well prepared. What could go wrong? On our return the first thing I noticed as we approached along the top of the quay was that Katy's mast was leaning outwards. Panic! We rushed to the top of the ladder and peered down. The mooring lines were just a foot or so too short and Katy was starting to hang on them, thus leaning her outwards - and she was drying out fast. Scrabbling down the ladder we discovered to our dismay that there was a tyre attached to the ladder which had been so far below the waterline that it was invisible when we left. Judging by the rusty chain and shackle it was attached by it must have originally been to fend off Noah's Ark, and as Katy dropped it had pushed the board and fenders into a tangle as it passed. Katy was drying out fast. The extra width of the tyre against the tangle of board and fenders was also stopped Katy from leaning in the right direction even when the warps were slacked. We had to untangle the fenders.... ...but it was too late. Katy majestically fell onto Manana accompanied by the horrible screeching of rubbing fenders. In short, what went wrong was that we weren't there. The fins should have politely excused themselves and left the bilge keelers to enjoy the hospitality at NDYC while we supervised Katy drying out. Then we would have spotted the tyre and have been able to arrange the tyre, board and fenders as Katy lowered and while she was still floating. ...and that really sums up my entire take on drying out against a wall. Katy needed 'feeding' past that tyre on both the incoming and outgoing tides, which meant that while the bilge keelers where having a lovely time us fins couldn't fully relax or get a complete night's sleep for the whole weekend. Having said that, I am glad I have had the experience. If I lean against a wall again I know exactly what to look out for - but I'm with Duncan on that one. I think wall leaning should be left as a last option. We would have been better off anchoring in the channel. Or would we have lost sleep worrying about whether the anchor was dragging or not? Anyone got a bilge keeler for sale? When I poked my head out on the morning of our departure the fog was quite thick. I couldn't see any of the boats moored in the river, and some of the bilge keelers were close enough for me to have been casually imagining throwing hand grenades at over the weekend. (Can't think why ;D ). Ah well, it was time to put the kettle on anyway. As our departure time drew closer the fog got gradually thinner and suddenly the sun lit up a single boat on the other side of the river like a spotlight. It was really quite beautiful, and the photo does not do it justice in the slightest. The wind picked up once we had turned the corner around Ilfracombe way and I had a wonderful sail the rest of the way back, which made up for having to motor almost all of the way to Appledore. Julian. Attachments:
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Post by ishtar on Jun 30, 2010 18:46:47 GMT
Great write up again. Thanks Sheila, and thanks Julian, for explaining that. We've yet to dry out. I must get around to it. I'm a firm believer in learning by trying it. Just been a bit of a oward so far on that front!
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Post by sheila on Jun 30, 2010 20:11:44 GMT
Great to hear the full story of what had actually happened Julian. And also glad gto hear that it has not put you off!
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Post by Xanadu on Jul 1, 2010 6:39:37 GMT
Sounds like you all had an awsome weekend - I'm very jealous! Great advice about leaning on a wall which I am sure I will need at some time - particularly the bit about don't unless you really have too.
Really looking forward to Lundy now.
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Post by allan on Jul 1, 2010 9:21:45 GMT
After the experiences of the weekend, I would say there were two things that made Julian's problems much greater than expected. 1. The tyre, which was below the water at high water and above the boat at low water. 2. Unlike a lot of boats, Katy goes nose down when the water goes away. The tyre made it difficult to set the boat up for drying as the tide ebbed. The standard practice of using a halyard to hold the boat in the right position does not work when the mast wants to drop forward. Moving as much weight aft and trying to hold the bow up with ropes to the offside cleats may have helped, but there is always a risk of damage to the cleats. I think we all learned a lot about drying over the weekend and I think we all agree that in retrospect it would have been better for Katy to have been on the RNLI buoy as arranged with NYDC. Still life is a learning experience! Allan
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Post by gofa on Jul 1, 2010 9:55:27 GMT
Hi All fin keeler
As a long standing member who not having owned a fin keeler but have been in club cruises around the bristol channel before marinas were even thought about, it was obvious to me that all the crews of fins and long keelers without legs, used to watch their boat down on the first dropping tide in Ilfracombe, Watchet, Minehead and Weston. They would in some cases weight all their boat on the side leaning against the wall so it would have a slight list.
I can see you all had a good time and I think another first to the cruising boats to enter Instow on a club cruise
Well done
Ray
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Post by Matt on Jul 1, 2010 12:59:15 GMT
Great pictures and account of the trip - Nice weather too!
Matt
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